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08 April 2005

More insights

Stumbled across some thoughts on the Relativism issue so I decided to post them even though they're not my own. This was drawn from Russ Lipton's blog at

"If all religions are right, no religions are right .... except agnosticism. After all, even a child recognizes the obvious contrasts and contradictions between the claims of the world's different religions. They can't .... all .... be .... right.

Only agnosticism (on the skeptical side) or Hinduism perhaps (on the credulous side) can claim to swallow up all other religions by relativizing them. Today's New Age agnosticism neatly does both in the post-modern West (and, increasingly, East).

Those of us in the West live in a culture where it is not only permissible to talk about sex, we must talk about it - all the time, if possible. Yet, while we are not persecuted openly for talking about religion (I said, openly), speaking seriously about religion is considered either a breach of manners or a sign of moral stupidity.

Note, I said, speak 'seriously'. This can only mean speak about my religion as though it were right - true. The truth. While agnostic New Age man fails to understand that he too makes an absolute claim to truth, we do understand that. We understand that it is literally impossible to follow any way of life unless one is convinced that it is the truth."

I think that pretty well summarizes the inherent flaw of Relativism. If, as Relativists would assert, there is no absolute truth, then what truth lies in their own position?



Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems that I have seen too many relativists for my liking. But, of course, that means nothing to them. Speaking of which, on an epistomological note...
I saw the Smothers Brothers last night at the Opera house. Tom opened the routine with a lengthy welcome speech that devolved into a series of lies and after Dickie called him on it, they got on the subject of truth. When Dickie asked him, "What is the truth?" expecting him to correct his lie, he said "What is truth? It's what you get people to believe."
On a closing note, they said
"George Washington said 'I cannot tell... a lie.'
Richard Nixon said 'I cannot tell... the truth.'
Bill Clinton said 'I cannot tell... the difference.'"
Of course, they had to add "And George Dubya can't even find the cherry trees."
(Which is true until he defines our enemy as Islam!)
-The Nameless One

April 13, 2005 at 12:14 PM  
Blogger jenn see said...

i usually end up with a sort of pantheistic "all of them are true--in bits".

April 13, 2005 at 12:16 PM  
Blogger em²ile² said...

jenn see, how do you end up there?

Nameless One, cute quotes- I'll have to use them sometime. Also, sorry for lack of updates...I'm working on it!

April 13, 2005 at 4:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In a sense, all religions are true in bits, but only one knows the Truth.

May 24, 2005 at 8:53 AM  

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